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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 7120] New: Variable bandwidth limit .. bwlimit
s***@samba.org
2010-02-09 05:36:28 UTC
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Summary: Variable bandwidth limit .. bwlimit
Product: rsync
Version: 3.1.0
Platform: Other
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: enhancement
Priority: P3
Component: core
AssignedTo: ***@samba.org
ReportedBy: ***@gmail.com
QAContact: rsync-***@samba.org


I used rsync with the --bwlimit option quite a bit so that I can rsync without
slowing down the network for others.

Often, I'd use rsync without any options to see the maximum bandwidth, then
kill it,and restart with a percentage of the speed reported.

Given this situation, I was wondering if it would be possible (and you would be
willing to) add an option:

--bwlimitpercentage=
or allow for:
--bwlimit=[0-9][0-9]%

that periodically (say 1 seconds every 30 seconds) doesn't throttle the
transfer to obtain the maximum speed, then throttles down to a percentage of
that measured.

Pierre
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s***@samba.org
2010-11-23 09:54:01 UTC
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------- Comment #1 from ***@logtenberg.eu 2010-11-23 03:54 CST -------
Speaking about variable bandwidth, it would also be sweet if rsync could
somehow be signalled to use a different bwlimit than the one it was started
with.

The use case is: on huge rsync jobs (think multiple weeks) one would like to
throttle the bandwidth rather stringently during daytime (when the internet
connection and/or server performance is needed for work), and speed up the
rsync job during night time.
Currently this would mean killing and restarting rsync every time you'd want to
change the throttle. With a huge job (think at least a couple of hours to
send/receive file lists) this results in a highly inefficient usage of
resources.

It would be awesome to be able to signal rsync in some way to use a different
bandwidth throttle without otherwise disturbing the ongoing transfer.
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s***@samba.org
2013-03-05 15:15:53 UTC
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--- Comment #2 from It is me <***@mnet-online.de> 2013-03-05 15:15:51 UTC ---
Hi,
just a note, due to the fact I am also looking forward for this feature.

I see two options regarding usability and scritablility. :)

1# Piping (not used up to now)

mkfifo /tmp/bla
echo "1000" > /tmp/bla

cat /tmp/bla | rsync ... --bwlimit-stdin ...

changing by just write to the fifo
echo "50" > /tmp/bla


2# file and signal

mktemp > /tmp/bla2
echo "1000" > /tmp/bla2
rsync ... -bwlimit-from=/tmp/bla2 .... &
RSYNCPID=$!
echo "50" > /tmp/bla2
kill -USR1 ${RSYNCPID}

hope the thinking helps.
Me.
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d***@web.de
2013-03-06 20:06:27 UTC
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mhh - interesting question......

what about combining the power of throttle ( http://linux.die.net/man/1/throttle ) or similar tools (there are some more like this) with rsync ?

via this hint: http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/2006-February/014623.html i got a clue how to combine rsync and throttle and gave it a try :

cat throttle-wrap
#!/bin/bash
throttle -k 1 -s 1| "$@"

rsync --rsh='/tmp/throttle-wrap ssh' -avz /src ***@host:/dest

seems to work fine for me, but mind that throttle needs -s 1 as this seems to circumvent the buffering problem.

not sure about the maximum bandwidth you can reach with that and how good you really can adjust the bandwith, so please report your findings......

If that is a useful option, can someone please put this into the bugzilla entry?

regards
Roland



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Subject: [Bug 7120] Variable bandwidth limit .. bwlimit
From: samba-bugs () samba ! org
Date: 2013-03-05 15:15:53
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--- Comment #2 from It is me <***@mnet-online.de> 2013-03-05 15:15:51 UTC ---
Hi,
just a note, due to the fact I am also looking forward for this feature.

I see two options regarding usability and scritablility. :)

1# Piping (not used up to now)

mkfifo /tmp/bla
echo "1000" > /tmp/bla

cat /tmp/bla | rsync ... --bwlimit-stdin ...

changing by just write to the fifo
echo "50" > /tmp/bla


2# file and signal

mktemp > /tmp/bla2
echo "1000" > /tmp/bla2
rsync ... -bwlimit-from=/tmp/bla2 .... &
RSYNCPID=$!
echo "50" > /tmp/bla2
kill -USR1 ${RSYNCPID}

hope the thinking helps.
Me.
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d***@web.de
2013-03-06 22:00:50 UTC
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or better try pipe viewer. it seems less buggy (kill -SIGUSR1 $PIDOFTHROTTLE doesn't work for me) , has realtime progress and there is a homepage and maintainer ( http://www.ivarch.com/programs/pv.shtml )

linux-rqru:/tmp # cat /tmp/pv-wrapper
#!/bin/bash
pv -L 1000 | "$@"

Adjust Transfer-Rate:

pv -R $PIDOFPV -L RATE

linux-rqru:/tmp # rsync --rsh='/tmp/pv-wrapper ssh' -a /proc ***@localhost:/tmp/test
Password: 4 B 0:00:01 [3.68 B/s] [ <=> ]
file has vanished: "/proc/10/exe"
file has vanished: "/proc/10/task/10/exe"
file has vanished: "/proc/11/exe"
file has vanished: "/proc/11/task/11/exe"
file has vanished: "/proc/12/exe"=> ]
4.88kiB 0:00:05 [1002 B/s] [ <=>

regards
roland






mhh - interesting question......

what about combining the power of throttle ( http://linux.die.net/man/1/throttle ) or similar tools (there are some more like this) with rsync ?

via this hint: http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/2006-February/014623.html i got a clue how to combine rsync and throttle and gave it a try :

cat throttle-wrap
#!/bin/bash
throttle -k 1 -s 1| "$@"

rsync --rsh='/tmp/throttle-wrap ssh' -avz /src ***@host:/dest

seems to work fine for me, but mind that throttle needs -s 1 as this seems to circumvent the buffering problem.

not sure about the maximum bandwidth you can reach with that and how good you really can adjust the bandwith, so please report your findings......

If that is a useful option, can someone please put this into the bugzilla entry?

regards
Roland



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Subject: [Bug 7120] Variable bandwidth limit .. bwlimit
From: samba-bugs () samba ! org
Date: 2013-03-05 15:15:53
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--- Comment #2 from It is me <***@mnet-online.de> 2013-03-05 15:15:51 UTC ---
Hi,
just a note, due to the fact I am also looking forward for this feature.

I see two options regarding usability and scritablility. :)

1# Piping (not used up to now)

mkfifo /tmp/bla
echo "1000" > /tmp/bla

cat /tmp/bla | rsync ... --bwlimit-stdin ...

changing by just write to the fifo
echo "50" > /tmp/bla


2# file and signal

mktemp > /tmp/bla2
echo "1000" > /tmp/bla2
rsync ... -bwlimit-from=/tmp/bla2 .... &
RSYNCPID=$!
echo "50" > /tmp/bla2
kill -USR1 ${RSYNCPID}

hope the thinking helps.
Me.
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2013-03-09 12:06:17 UTC
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--- Comment #3 from roland <***@web.de> 2013-03-09 12:06:15 UTC ---
you can do that with pipe-viewer or similar pipe transfer visualization tools
with throttling feature.

http://www.ivarch.com/programs/pv.shtml

first we need to create a little wrapper to put pv into the transfer chain:

linux:/tmp # cat /tmp/pv-wrapper
#!/bin/bash
pv -L 1000 | "$@"

example:

linux:/tmp # rsync --rsh='/tmp/pv-wrapper ssh' -a /proc
***@localhost:/tmp/test
Password: 4 B 0:00:01 [3.68 B/s] [ <=> ]
file has vanished: "/proc/10/exe"
file has vanished: "/proc/10/task/10/exe"
file has vanished: "/proc/11/exe"
file has vanished: "/proc/11/task/11/exe"
file has vanished: "/proc/12/exe"=> ]
4.88kiB 0:00:05 [1002 B/s] [ <=>

You can even adjust the transfer rate at runtime, as pv can communicate with a
running instance of itself - you will just need the appropriate PID. This would
even make cron based tuning of transfer rates possible.

pv -R $PIDOFPV -L RATE
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2014-05-05 19:15:43 UTC
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--- Comment #4 from Pol Hallen <***@fuckaround.org> 2014-05-05 19:15:42 UTC ---
Hi all and thanks for replies, any "stable" way to do rsync with variable
bandwidht?

Thanks

Pol
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2014-05-06 18:11:03 UTC
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--- Comment #5 from roland <***@web.de> 2014-05-06 18:11:03 UTC ---
what`s "unstable" in the way i described it?

why build every feature in every tool when the power of unix is to concatenate
tools in a way to handle requirements?
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2014-07-21 15:59:10 UTC
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--- Comment #6 from Wayne Davison <***@samba.org> 2014-07-21 15:59:09 UTC ---
I like the use of the pv tool for dynamic control. Nice suggestion!
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2017-03-01 17:38:15 UTC
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--- Comment #7 from roland <***@web.de> ---
please mind the note from this posting when using pv:
http://superuser.com/questions/778066/using-pv1-to-limit-rsync-speed


--snipp--
It seems that pv is waiting for data from rsync, and rsync is waiting for data
too (stuck in select()) and not closing the input to pv. So it's a deadlock.
Same happens when you substitute pv with something else (like dd). It seems
that those commands just don't behave like rsync expects them to.

Haven't found a workaround short of killing everything:

export RSYNC_RSH="sh -c 'pv -qL10k | ssh \"\$@\" | (pv -qL11k; kill \$\$)' ssh"

kill is not a solution I'd be happy with. But I haven't found another.

Of course using $$ was the lazy way out, should kill pv instead but how to
obtain the pid in a oneliner? pidof just gives any pv pids. Querying their
respective parent pids seemed a bit odd for a oneliner.

Looking forward to a real solution... ;)
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Lars Ellenberg
2017-03-06 16:02:16 UTC
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Post by s***@samba.org
https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7120
http://superuser.com/questions/778066/using-pv1-to-limit-rsync-speed
--snipp--
It seems that pv is waiting for data from rsync, and rsync is waiting for data
too (stuck in select()) and not closing the input to pv. So it's a deadlock.
Same happens when you substitute pv with something else (like dd). It seems
that those commands just don't behave like rsync expects them to.
The trick is to avoid any remaining parent- or sub-shell,
achieved by using exec (the inner execs are not always needed,
that depends on the bash version. but they don't hurt, either).

this runs both pv on the local box:

RSYNC_RSH="bash -xc '\
exec 3< <(exec pv -L10k); \
exec 4< <(exec \"\$@\" <&3 ) 3<&-; \
exec pv -L11k <&4 4<&-' -- ssh"

feel free to add -N IN -c, -N OUT -c, or similar...

Or runs outgoing limit on local box,
incomming limit on remote box
(each box limits the stream that leaves it):

O_LIM="bash -c 'exec 3< <(exec pv -L10k); exec \"\$@\" <&3 3<&-' -- ssh"
I_LIM="bash -c 'exec 3< <(exec \"\$@\"); exec pv -L11k <&3 3<&-' -- rsync"
rsync --rsh "$O_LIM" --rsync-path "$I_LIM" ...

Or the other way around,
if you want each box limit their respective incoming stream instead.

Cheers,

Lars
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L A Walsh via rsync
2017-03-18 20:41:06 UTC
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Post by s***@samba.org
--snipp--
It seems that pv is waiting for data from rsync, and rsync is waiting for data
too (stuck in select()) and not closing the input to pv. So it's a deadlock.
Same happens when you substitute pv with something else (like dd). It seems
that those commands just don't behave like rsync expects them to.
---
Would a use of "stdbuf" (coreutils) help? It allows one to
change the input and/or output buffering of the tools to
from full buffered to line-buffered to unbuffered for tools
normally connected via a pipe.
Post by s***@samba.org
kill is not a solution I'd be happy with. But I haven't found another.
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Maybe a suspend/continue would be more gentle than killing things?
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